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Retirement At 60? Europe Faced With Cuts In Generous Benefit System

Associated Press Writer May 23 04:45

LONDON (AP) � Six weeks of vacation a year. Retirement at 60. Thousands of euros for having a baby. A good university education for less than the cost of a laptop.

(ap) - The fact that anyone honestly believed this would be sustainable is almost as tragic as the fact that we are blindly following in this failure of a path with ObamaCare and everything else that is being proposed by the American Left right now. One of the key requirements for Greece to get the bailout was to privatize it's health care system... As we attempt to nationalize ours. Talk about the blind leading the blind.  Will the AP mention this?... - tha malcontent)

The system known as the European welfare state was built after World War II as the keystone of a shared prosperity meant to prevent future conflict. Generous lifelong benefits have since become a defining feature of modern Europe.

(Apparently the Peace-loving, Tolerant and Caring Islamists didn't sign on to this agreement to avoid conflict! - tha malcontent)

Now the welfare state � cherished by many Europeans as an alternative to what they see as dog-eat-dog American capitalism � is coming under its most serious threat in decades: Europe's sovereign debt crisis.

(And the AP is beside itself with disbelief! - tha malcontent)

Deep budget cuts are under way across Europe. Although the first round is focused mostly on government payrolls � the least politically explosive target � welfare benefits are looking increasingly vulnerable.

(And Europeans get drunk and riot when they get their cheese taken... Bet. You think this is over?... Nope. - tha malcontent)

"The current welfare state is unaffordable," said Uri Dadush, director of the Carnegie Endowment's International Economics Program. "The crisis has made the day of reckoning closer by several years in virtually all the industrial countries."

(At least some people saw it coming. - tha malcontent)

Germany will decide next month just how to cut at least 3 billion euros ($3.75 billion) from the budget. The government is suggesting for the first time that it could make fresh cuts to unemployment benefits that include giving Germans under 50 about 60 percent of their last salary before taxes for up to a year. That benefit itself emerged after cuts to an even more generous package about five years ago.

(Band-aids... Europeans aren't reproducing and Islamists aren't Assimilating. At least our border crossers don't blow **** up in the name of their God! - tha malcontent)

"We have to adjust our social security systems in a way that they motivate people to accept regular work and do not give counterproductive incentives," German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble told news weekly Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung on Saturday.

("Counterproductive incentives"... Like not having expectations of people for their living? - tha malcontent)

The uncertainty over the future of the welfare state is undermining the continent's self-image at a time when other key elements of post-war European identity are fraying.

Large-scale immigration from outside Europe is challenging the continent's assumptions about its dedication to tolerance and liberty as countries move to control individual clothing � the Islamic veil � in the name of freedom and equality.

(There they are... Europe has HEAP problems on their hands... And soon, attacks in Europe will resemble what happens in Israel. Tolerance is all fine and good... But you can't Tolerate the Intolerant. - tha malcontent)

Deeply wary of military conflict, many nations now find themselves nonetheless mired in Afghanistan on behalf of what was supposed to be a North Atlantic alliance, shying away from wholesale pullout while doing their utmost to keep troops from actual combat.

(Deeply wary of further angering their border-crossers, that is. - tha malcontent)

Demographers and economists began warning decades ago that social welfare was doomed by the aging of Europe's baby boomers. Some governments had been trimming and reforming, but now almost all are scrambling to close deficits in order to prevent a wider collapse of confidence in the euro.

(Yep... And we have a Boomer problem here in the States also! - tha malcontent)

"We need to change, to adapt ... for the sake of the protection of our social model," European Union Commissioner Joaquin Almunia of Spain told reporters in Stockholm Thursday.

The move is risky: experts warn the cuts could undermine the growth needed to pull budgets back on a sustainable path.

(One hand can't feed the other from a limited supply and expect to survive... It's really that simple. - tha malcontent)

On Monday, Britain unveils 6 billion pounds ($8.6 billion) in cuts � mostly to government payrolls and expenses. The government has promised to raise the age at which citizens receive a state pension � up from 60 to 65 for women, and from 65 to 66 for men. It also plans to toughen the welfare regime, requiring the unemployed to try to find jobs in order to collect benefits.

("requiring the unemployed to try to find jobs in order to collect benefits."... Wow!... Just wow! - tha malcontent)

Britain says it will limit child tax credits and scrap a 250-pound ($360) payment to the families of every newborn. Ministers are reviewing the long-term affordability of the country's generous public sector pensions.

(But hey, it was a helluva ride, wasn't it! Socialism FAILS every single time it's tried. And the only reason it lasted this long in Europe is because we have been funding their Defense with our tax dollars and military for 6 decades. Time to cut them off. - tha malcontent)

Funding for Britain's nationalized health care service will be protected under the new government, however, and should rise each year to 2015.

(What about Greece?... That's it, don't learn from the mistakes that are happening RIGHT NOW in the EU. - tha malcontent)

France's conservative government is focusing on raising the retirement age. Many workers can now retire at 60 with 50 percent of their average salary. Extra funds are available for retired civil servants, those with three or more children, military veterans and others.

("France" and "conservative" are not compatible terms. "Less Liberal" is a better way to describe the shift not only in France but in much of the EU. - tha malcontent)

A parliamentary debate is planned for September. Unions in France are organizing a national day of protest marches and strikes on Thursday to demand protection of wages and the retirement age.

(The rioting I was referring to earlier... Look for it on that day... If not sooner. - tha malcontent)

In Spain, billions in cuts to state salaries go into effect next month, and the Socialist government has frozen increases in pensions meant to compensate for inflation for at least two years.

(Not the only "Socialist" government over there... But at least they wear it proudly! - tha malcontent)

"They've hit us really hard," said Federico Carbonero, 92, a retired soldier. He said he was unlikely to live long enough to see the worst of the pension freeze, but had no doubts he would have to start relying on savings to maintain his lifestyle.

(Think about all of the non-WWII/Great Depression Era Europeans who don't save and believed that they would be taken care of from the cradle to the grave, even if they refused to work and be productive... Scary times in Europe. - tha malcontent)

Spain is cutting assistance payments for disabled people by 300 million euros ($375 million) and did away with a three-year-old bonus of 2,500 euros ($3,124.25) per new baby. It also has proposed hiking the retirement age for men from 65 to 67.

(Damn... The disabled?... How about the Tyrants in the higher offices in government? - tha malcontent)

Countries in northern Europe have done a far better of reforming social welfare and have unemployment systems that focus on re-employing people instead of making their unemployment comfortable, said Gayle Allard, a professor of economic environment and country analysis at the Instituto de Empresa in Madrid.

("instead of making their unemployment comfortable..." Again... Wow!... Just wow! - tha malcontent)

Denmark and other Nordic countries are known for the world's highest taxes and most generous cradle-to-grave benefits. Denmark has implemented a system known broadly as "flexicurity," which combines flexibility for employers to hire and fire workers with financial security and training to prepare for new jobs.

(Don't worry, the entire ****house is about to collapse over there and they won't be immune! - tha malcontent)

Denmark had a 7.5 percent unemployment rate in the first quarter of this year, well below the EU average of 9.6 percent. Swedish and Finnish unemployment stood at 8.9 percent. Norway, with some of the world's most generous unemployment benefits fully funded by oil for the forseeable future, has Europe's lowest jobless rate, just 3 percent in April.

(So the country with Big Fat Bald White Oil is doing the best?... It can't be! - tha malcontent)

Southern European countries that have not moved toward reforming welfare in the same ways are paying a steep price.

After sharp cutbacks imposed as the condition of an international bailout this month, Greeks must now contribute to pension funds for 40 instead of 37 years before retiring, and the age of early retirement is set to 60 at the earliest.

(What about their health care system, AP?... - tha malcontent)

Civil servants with monthly salaries of above 3,000 euros ($3,750) will lose two extra months of salary � one paid at Christmas, the other split between Easter and summer vacation.

In Portugal, seen as another potential candidate for bailout, the government is focusing on hikes in income, corporate and sales taxes and has avoided drastic changes to welfare entitlements. Unemployment benefits will be cut somewhat and the out-of-work will have to accept any job paying more than 10 percent more than what they would receive in unemployment benefits.

("the government is focusing on hikes in income, corporate and sales taxes and has avoided drastic changes to welfare entitlements."... Read it again. - tha malcontent)

The government is also stepping up checks on welfare claims, freezing public sector pay and slicing public investment.

"There's been a lack of willingness to shift away from welfare as purely social protection towards an approach which has been in much of northern Europe in recent years, which is welfare as social investment," said Iain Begg, a professor at the London School of Economics and Political Science's European Institute.

("welfare as social investment"... Seriously?... - tha malcontent)

Otto Fricke, a budget expert for the Free Democrats, the coalition partner of German Chancellor Angela Merkel's Christian Democratic Union, told The Associated Press that no decisions on cuts have been made, but everything is on the table except education, pension funds and financial aid to developing countries. At least one high-ranking CDU member has called for the idea of protecting education to be re-examined, however.

German public education, which was virtually free until 2005, when some of Germany's 16 states started charging tuition fees of 1000 euros ($1,250) a year.

Virtually all Germany's students pay that much or less to attend state-funded universities, including elite institutions. Education isn't as cheap elsewhere in Europe but the 3,290 pounds ($4,720) per year paid by British students at Cambridge is still far less than Americans pay at comparable schools like Harvard, where annual tuition comes in just shy of $35,000.

The idea of cutting education is proving hard to swallow in the face of Germany's promise to contribute up to 147.6 billion euros ($184.5 billion) in loan guarantees to protect Greece and other countries that use the euro from bankruptcy.

"I am worried that this crisis will also affect me on a personal level, for example, that universities in Germany will raise the tuition in order to pay the loan they give to Greece," said Karoline Daederich, a 22-year-old university student from Berlin.

(Wow... I knew it was Socialist in the EU, but I really had no idea it was this bad.  How did they feel that this could ever sustain itself?... And to think, there are many who think they can fix the Socialism and make it work this time...  And it's not just our President! - tha malcontent)


Associated Press writers Juergen Baetz and Kirsten Grieshaber in Berlin, Malin Rising and Karl Ritter in Stockholm, David Stringer in London, Veronika Oleksyn in Vienna, Harold Heckle in Madrid, Elaine Ganley in Paris, Elena Becatoros in Athens and Barry Hatton in Lisbon contributed to this report.


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